tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post6845411225498185710..comments2023-10-25T04:05:04.377-07:00Comments on Botgirl's Digital Playground: Is Avatar = Real Person Privacy at Death's Door?Botgirl Questihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01707252228872837054noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-65451737852797048392011-03-23T05:58:35.185-07:002011-03-23T05:58:35.185-07:00i am so sorry that i missed this post! this is a g...i am so sorry that i missed this post! this is a great topic and i would say that pseudonyms will always exist and that an "Ener Hax" is very much like a Nike<br /><br />Nike is no single person but has tremendous accountability<br /><br />some brands, like Apple, are heavily identified by one person. but many brands, actors, singers, etc, use pseudonyms and it is no big deal<br /><br />does it matter who Ener Hax is? not at all, it is best to judge Ener by what Ener does<br /><br />i respect Botgirl and really have no interest in knowing who the "real" person is because i have gained so much insight from the writings of Botgirl<br /><br />it does not matter to me if Botgirl is tall, short, Jewish, Muslim, white, black, or likes anchovies - what does any of that have to do with what i have learned from Botgirl?iliveislhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00412300946166700450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-45791146770510359002011-03-02T11:27:38.813-08:002011-03-02T11:27:38.813-08:00Without discussing the pros and cons of psuedoanon...Without discussing the pros and cons of psuedoanon identity, I'll point out that anyone with sufficient skill can pull it off, regardless - and those without sufficient skill can't, regardless.<br /><br />There are just entirely too many breadcrumbs that can be followed to find someone on the net, unless you are exceptionally rigorous in covering your tracks...<br /><br />... and similarly, the determined and skilled can cover their tracks very well indeed. Attempts to enforce ubiquitous RL visiblity will have the effect of giving folks a false confidence.<br /><br />I'd note that what the metaverse does offer is "popular and easy access to psuedo anon identities" - and this has created a culture that (largely) accepts interaction with these identities at face value. I rather like how avatars express an aspect of folks - it takes people watching to a whole new level.<br /><br />The norms on this are forming up still, I think, but the culture has had a years to become entrenched - it won't die. <br /><br />On the other hand, some business and emotional investments could sure benefit from a verified identity linkage. I'd definitely verify an account, for what it would be worth.Raven Haalanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10945814780896627064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-53667708705104241092011-03-02T10:38:59.526-08:002011-03-02T10:38:59.526-08:00I dunno. Being able to freely opt in or out is gr...I dunno. Being able to freely opt in or out is great to first order, but I do worry about emergent effects. For instance if there was a huge influx of RL-verified people, and the perception became that non-verified people were probably griefers or scammers or whatever, and venues started blocking the non-verified, and so on, I think that would change the nature of SL for the worse.<br /><br />Just offering RL-verification as an option won't itself cause that to happen, of course. But it might be a first step on a bad road...<br /><br />Just fretting. :)Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-8850995642028860222011-03-02T09:28:14.148-08:002011-03-02T09:28:14.148-08:00I support the Lab's move to making a verified ...I support the Lab's move to making a verified avatar account available as an option. <br /><br />For those that have no business purpose or need for a verfied identity there is no impetus for change. For those that require it, it opens doors of business opportunities.<br /><br />The conversation quickly went to a fear of "outting" people and the security risks involved. By offering the choice there is no stripping the safety of masking identity for people who sincerely need and want it, for whatever reason.<br /><br />Freedom of choice FTW!<br /><br />Excellent post.<br /><br />SkylarSkylar Smythe https://www.blogger.com/profile/06218136443422844497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-11091007359669579382011-03-02T08:39:57.935-08:002011-03-02T08:39:57.935-08:00"...t's likely that Second Life and other..."...t's likely that Second Life and other virtual worlds will eventually allow Facebook authentication..."<br /><br />I don't think this statement is correct. Simply because Facebook's entire model is BASED on RL identity. AND a lot of SL identity is based on roleplay.<br /><br />I give as evidence the amazingly huge nuclear level reaction to the idea that RedZone was hacking avatar alt identities.<br /><br />This is a lesson in what NOT to do for Second Life. Many, many, many paying customers will just go to another virtual world if this were to happen, and Linden Lab knows this.<br /><br />The whole RL/VR world identity thing will not be an either/or in the future. There will be many choices out there and many ways to do it.<br /><br />I think Linden Lab has made the right choice by making your RL identity available to show as a personal choice. I think it will stay that way for monetary reasons.....Scarp Godenothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09237889155106395358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-66265048000925880242011-03-02T08:27:06.570-08:002011-03-02T08:27:06.570-08:00I don't think it's any more dead or ailing...I don't think it's any more dead or ailing than it ever was. Some people have always used pseudonyms on the Net, some of them have always been discovered, some not. There are certainly more places to accidentally give yourself away than there used to be (MyTwitFace :) ). But I don't think it's fundamentally any harder (or any easier) to remain pseudonymous; or at any rate the difference is just one of degree, not of kind...Dale Innishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02771522211082181738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7329817540513850224.post-67029339777526032482011-03-02T08:08:56.352-08:002011-03-02T08:08:56.352-08:00I perfectly understand you cant be anonymous if yo...I perfectly understand you cant be anonymous if you are a student in a virtual world. But still i dont think you should share that with the whole world. Ill just say one word; STALKERS! <br /><br />Would you walk down one of the main streets in New York city irl with your name and adress over your head? And handing out your keys to your apartment to everyone interested? No that wouldnt be a wise move. <br /><br />And the internet is far worse. I believe in pseudonyms on the internet, full stop. Share with friends yes, but not the whole world. There are maniacs out there and I dont want them in my house, cooking the kids rabbit for dinner....Mera Kranfelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671947433797959660noreply@blogger.com